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Post by Patriots GM (Daniel) on Oct 3, 2012 19:10:26 GMT
Fitz and Fletcher a wash, you're joking right? Fitz for 2 more years with a chance to get two 1sts in TT compared to an overpaid LB (trust me I know them) CRAZY
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2012 19:15:18 GMT
You can't TT a player that has already been FT'ed. So if Skins wants to FT him again it will cost around 15 mil. Which makes him way overpaid, especially when Vernon Davis will be 1/3rd of that salary and producing stats that are close to Fitz's. Then looking at 20 mil for yr 3 FT. No way is that a reasonable salary, and not something worth taking into account as a positive for Skins in this trade.
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Post by Patriots GM (Daniel) on Oct 3, 2012 19:17:48 GMT
You can TT a franchised player, ask Darryl. This confusion of rules between admins is worrying for the league. Fitz will produce higher stats than Davis considering that only 2 TEs have come close to his seasonal points recently
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2012 19:23:16 GMT
He won't be producing triple Davis' stats and that is what goes into the voting process. We'll wait on Darryl to clarify that issue, but according to rules stated rules he shouldn't be allowed to be TT, as the portion regarding Tag compensation implies, though it doesn't directly say, that a player under FT can only be FT'ed in future years. It may be an issue TAB has to vote on. When it doesn't directly say either way you can't just claim that it says you can.
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Post by Patriots GM (Daniel) on Oct 3, 2012 19:26:06 GMT
That is the rule though, can't FT a TT player but can TT a player who has been FTed
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2012 19:27:47 GMT
Rule never states that.
The same player may receive the franchise tag a maximum of 3 seasons in a row.
If a player is tagged 2 years in a row by the same team...he must be paid 130% of the current year's franchise tag.
If a player is tagged 3 years in a row by the same team...he must be paid 160% of the current year's franchise tag.
Franchise tags are based on the average salary of the 5 highest paid players at their position and will be determined at the end of each season for the following season.
Transition tags are similar to franchise tags and tender with these differences
The player is non-exclusive and can be bid upon like Tenders but with 2 first round picks compensation
A GM who bids upon the player can only put one bid in, if this is beaten then he can no longer win that player
The owner cannot then try and resign the player if bid upon
If no bids are recieved the player re-signs at the lower franchise tag rate (Current or Previous Year)
Once given a Transitional Tag they cannot be tagged the following year with either a franchise or transitional tag again
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Post by Patriots GM (Daniel) on Oct 3, 2012 21:35:38 GMT
Darryl cleared it up with you?
Also regarding $15m being crazy high. Yes it is high but when WRs scoring 75pts less than him are going for $12m it doesnt seem all that expensive
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2012 21:59:56 GMT
Haven't heard a word about it yet, and other peoples poor investments does make a poor investment in Fitz any better. That is why we have a TAB.
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Post by Patriots GM (Daniel) on Oct 3, 2012 22:12:24 GMT
It does make him level with the market value for WRs though
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2012 22:16:23 GMT
15 mil puts him a good bit over the market. But what I am saying is this a large trade, I know you like them that way because it allows stuff muddied more easily. But while analyzing the deal I stand by what I posted and what I voted. Skins gets hosed with the salary taken and gets much less talented players in return for what you are receiving. whether you disagree with my analysis of Fletcher to Fitz or not, it is still an all around bad deal.
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Post by Patriots GM (Daniel) on Oct 3, 2012 22:21:55 GMT
In your eyes
How you can say Fitz and Fletcher have the same value puzzles me as you have consistantly told me that my LBs (Mainly Anderson) are worth squat.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2012 22:28:50 GMT
Well, mostly because I think a WR on a 1 yr deal is worth the same as a LB on an identical one year deal.... squat. 1 yr @ 10.5 mil for 291 pts = 1 yr @ 10.6 mil for 294 pts. They are basically the same player fantasy wise. Both horrendously overpaid.
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Post by Patriots GM (Daniel) on Oct 3, 2012 22:29:42 GMT
Well, mostly because I think a WR on a 1 yr deal is worth the same as a LB on an identical one year deal.... squat. And thats why you arent competing for a title. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2012 22:31:27 GMT
Oh but I am  Besides the only reason you are in as good of a a position as you think you are is because you consistently raped new and inexperienced owners in this league. The whole reason we put in the 1 week no trade clause was because of you lol. |
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Post by Patriots GM (Daniel) on Oct 3, 2012 22:33:11 GMT
Oh but I am We'll see about that |
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Besides the only reason you are in as good of a a position as you think you are is because you consistently raped new and inexperienced owners in this league. The whole reason we put in the 1 week no trade clause was because of you lol.