49ers-Vikings

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Vikings get:

DL Justin Smith (SF) - $5,000,000 (2013)

49ers get:

1.25 1st round pick in 2012(SF)

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My take on this trade is this: Even though Justin Smith was traded to 49ers by me for a 2014 1st and a 2012 4th, this trade is a different story.

1) Vikings is not in a position where he needs that one last piece to become a contender. After losing AP, he needs to rebuild and having that much cap tied up at DL is not the way to go. His current 1st will help him out a lot more.

2) Even though I received a 1st round pick in 2014 for Justin Smith, 2014 picks are worth less than 2012 picks because 49ers can still plan and trade to make up for that 2014 pick. He is also in a position where Justin Smith really made his defense a viable threat, where Vikings is just taking on more salary in an area he really shouldn't be taking in more salary at.

That being said, this is my take on why this trade currently has 2 vetoes and may be vetoed again. 49ers was wondering why it got veto votes on chat so I thought the league should be informed of why this trade received vetoes in case other teams were also confused. This is not a double standard, the amount a team gives in a trade can sometimes be measured by how close they are to a championship.

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Hey Rey,I approved, against my wishes, but I noticed you were wondering why your trade of a 1st for Justin Smith was allowed while this one may be vetoed.
I think the big difference is that the 1st you gave wa sin 2014 which gives you more time to plan for and be able to overcome losing that pick. It isn't quite as valuable to you. The first being given up this year holds more value.
As Ravens stated as well, the state of your team as compared to Vikes is much different. You were looking to be a contender and bring on a DL which is very good, but Vikes is really looking to rebuild and his team is kinda in shambles. These trades he is making just keeping digging his hole deeper...

Really Vikes? You wanna put 27 mil of your cap into DL players?

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[Bengals GM (Darryl)]

Wow guys...great comments! I think we have a league.

And let me comment by first adding my apologies to the league as a whole. I try to stay alert and make the best decision possible when it comes to approving/vetoing trades. A couple late nights of storms threw me off. Let me explain;

I believe that of all TAB members, I'm the one most likely to veto a trade. I approved this trade based off of the last trade involving Smith - in which I never do - nor did I go back to look at that trade. In any case, I missed this veto yet my vote must stand and just want to take the time to thank those TAB members who do vote- for lending their individual thought and insight in carefully analyzing such trades...

Also, to the members who comment and share their thoughts and insight as well, I thank for your contributions. Truly it is more than a great feeling to know that we can each share a different perspective, and/or shed light upon any given situation...

[reyalmanza]

Alright guys so let me get this straight a 1st right now is more valuable than in 2014? they are first after all. but alright TAB has the decision.

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Refer to redskins trade, and all the firsts they traded to get the 2nd pick.

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May 2, 2012 20:24:51 GMT @reyalmanza said:

Alright guys so let me get this straight a 1st right now is more valuable than in 2014? they are first after all. but alright TAB has the decision.

A known first is way more valuable than an unknown 1st absolutely.

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And like I said it depends on the teams situation