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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 18:39:50 GMT
Seriously, I saw this trade had to check the date again, just to make sure it wasn't 1st April.
A starting NFL QB went for a WR that put him a whopping 217yds and 1 TD, whilst everyone else in the trade is a FA, and it went through 3-0. Not one pick added, why even have a TAB ?
Before the chip in of, that the Steelers traded Brown, so he has a chance of being a top a WR, no he doesnt, he will be at best a #2 behind JU JU, and the Steelers also drafted a WR in Johnson.
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Post by Packers GM (Nick) on May 18, 2019 20:01:20 GMT
I’ll speak for my side... Take a look at what I gave up for Ben: dynastynflgm.proboards.com/thread/11775/nyg-gb-approved-4-2Thus, in my mind, the trade was a 4th and a one-year CB for a WR that was a 1st round pick (in the fantasy league) last year. And while Steelers drafted a receiver who could be ahead of him, they lost a WR who was definitely ahead of him in Brown. So that was my rationale. I could be well off in my assessment, but if so, the mistake will be minimal in its cost to me and its upside high. |
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Post by Panthers GM (Frank) on May 18, 2019 21:27:52 GMT
I love this trade for the Packers. Young WR that went in the first round for a QB on a 1 year deal? Good job Pack!
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Post by Packers GM (Nick) on May 18, 2019 21:40:02 GMT
I definitely see the counter argument - every QB starter is valuable in a 32-team league and Ben is top echelon. The $14M price tag, however, limits the suitors significantly.
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Post by Panthers GM (Frank) on May 18, 2019 21:49:21 GMT
Lets keep in mind that its a high risk high reward scenario. In a league that now has a contract extension, James Washington could turn out to be a 8 year franchise proposition for the Packers. If Washington fails to develop and becomes a bust, so you lost a QB for one season, who cannot be extended and the franchise tag will be crippling.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 22:28:23 GMT
A first round pick in a fantasy league is not justification for a starting QB.
This is a 32 team league and such QB are premium, and their price should refelct this, what do you think Washington is going to do, its not like he flashed, at 217yds 1TD, there were WR who scored better than that in 1 game is Cole Beasley worth Cam Newton? I could understand if it was a Thielin or equal WR but trying to make Washington out as some young stud at WR is a joke, if the Steelers think a lot of him why did they burn a 3rd round pick on a WR.
The job of the TAB is to ensure trades are fair and balanced. The fact that this trade is not even close to that is laughable, its not even justified whether Ben carries a $14m price tag and has 1yr on his deal.
A Starting QB does not go for a #3 WR and a bunch of FA players,no matter how you dress it up, its like borrowing $1000, and paying back $5, and change and a lottery ticket, as you never know that ticket might be a jackpot winner.
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Post by Panthers GM (Frank) on May 18, 2019 23:22:23 GMT
A first round pick in a fantasy league is not justification for a starting QB. This is a 32 team league and such QB are premium, and their price should refelct this, what do you think Washington is going to do, its not like he flashed, at 217yds 1TD, there were WR who scored better than that in 1 game is Cole Beasley worth Cam Newton? I could understand if it was a Thielin or equal WR but trying to make Washington out as some young stud at WR is a joke, if the Steelers think a lot of him why did they burn a 3rd round pick on a WR. The job of the TAB is to ensure trades are fair and balanced. The fact that this trade is not even close to that is laughable, its not even justified whether Ben carries a $14m price tag and has 1yr on his deal. A Starting QB does not go for a #3 WR and a bunch of FA players,no matter how you dress it up, its like borrowing $1000, and paying back $5, and change and a lottery ticket, as you never know that ticket might be a jackpot winner. Well, I have Brady OTB block on a one year deal, at half the salary, and I have received no inquiries. But thanks for establishing the fact that I can demand a house for him, or at least more than a mere first rounder. Lets see how the market system reacts in my case. |
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Post by Packers GM (Nick) on May 18, 2019 23:29:51 GMT
A first round pick in a fantasy league is not justification for a starting QB. This is a 32 team league and such QB are premium, and their price should refelct this, what do you think Washington is going to do, its not like he flashed, at 217yds 1TD, there were WR who scored better than that in 1 game is Cole Beasley worth Cam Newton? I could understand if it was a Thielin or equal WR but trying to make Washington out as some young stud at WR is a joke, if the Steelers think a lot of him why did they burn a 3rd round pick on a WR. The job of the TAB is to ensure trades are fair and balanced. The fact that this trade is not even close to that is laughable, its not even justified whether Ben carries a $14m price tag and has 1yr on his deal. A Starting QB does not go for a #3 WR and a bunch of FA players,no matter how you dress it up, its like borrowing $1000, and paying back $5, and change and a lottery ticket, as you never know that ticket might be a jackpot winner. Well, I have Brady OTB block on a one year deal, at half the salary, and I have received no inquiries. But thanks for establishing the fact that I can demand a house for him. Lets see how the market system reacts in my case. I had the same thing - Ben had been on my block the whole time with no offers. I worked the metaphorical phones to get this offer and am pretty happy with what I got. |
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Post by Panthers GM (Frank) on May 18, 2019 23:47:32 GMT
Well, I have Brady OTB block on a one year deal, at half the salary, and I have received no inquiries. But thanks for establishing the fact that I can demand a house for him. Lets see how the market system reacts in my case. I had the same thing - Ben had been on my block the whole time with no offers. I worked the metaphorical phones to get this offer and am pretty happy with what I got. Exactly! The truth of the matter is that there has to be a market value for a player, and the fact that I won Brady on a year deal for a mere 8M contract offer suggest that the demand for the QB position is not high in this league right now. There can be several different factors for this, and one being is that there can be multiple teams rebuilding at the same time, who have no interest in giving up multiple young pieces for a QB who is old, expensive, cant be extended, and the franchise tag will cost 20M next year. There's lots of disincentives there. |
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Post by Nate (Lions GM) on May 19, 2019 2:37:36 GMT
I honestly agree with the point, however I had more of an issue with the NYG/GB trade, having seen the price of that trade it seemed even more given the precedent TAB had made.
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Post by Panthers GM (Frank) on May 19, 2019 3:34:49 GMT
I honestly agree with the point, however I had more of an issue with the NYG/GB trade, having seen the price of that trade it seemed even more given the precedent TAB had made. That was a far worse trade. The jury is out on Washington, but Im not ready to call him a bust just yet, especially because Brown is not in Pitt anymore. I still see him with a perceived first round value as of now, though that could change if he doesnt produce soon. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 4:55:47 GMT
Qb's in this league aren't hard to get. Multiple teams aren't playing to win so the market is small. I have tried to trade Brees ever since I joined this league to rebuild. No takers.
At least they are trying to field teams that can compete by making the trade. Too many owner's in leagues try to rebuild and give up on fielding a team while doing so. Not having a starting QB makes you closer to that 1.1 pick.
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